Poll: Whose side are you on; MLB or MLBPA?

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whose side are you on?

  1. MLB

    2 vote(s)
    40.0%
  2. MLBPA

    2 vote(s)
    40.0%
  3. Don't give a rat's patooty

    1 vote(s)
    20.0%
  1. emmett kelly

    emmett kelly Well-Known Member

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    To our Fans:

    I first want to thank you for your continued support of the great game of baseball. This past season, we were reminded of how the national pastime can bring us together and restore our hope despite the difficult challenges of a global pandemic. As we began to emerge from one of the darkest periods in our history, our ballparks were filled with fans; the games were filled with excitement; and millions of families felt the joy of watching baseball together.

    That is why I am so disappointed about the situation in which our game finds itself today. Despite the league’s best efforts to make a deal with the Players Association, we were unable to extend our 26 year-long history of labor peace and come to an agreement with the MLBPA before the current CBA expired. Therefore, we have been forced to commence a lockout of Major League players, effective at 12:01am ET on December 2.

    I want to explain to you how we got here and why we have to take this action today. Simply put, we believe that an offseason lockout is the best mechanism to protect the 2022 season. We hope that the lockout will jumpstart the negotiations and get us to an agreement that will allow the season to start on time. This defensive lockout was necessary because the Players Association’s vision for Major League Baseball would threaten the ability of most teams to be competitive. It’s simply not a viable option. From the beginning, the MLBPA has been unwilling to move from their starting position, compromise, or collaborate on solutions.

    When we began negotiations over a new agreement, the Players Association already had a contract that they wouldn’t trade for any other in sports. Baseball’s players have no salary cap and are not subjected to a maximum length or dollar amount on contracts. In fact, only MLB has guaranteed contracts that run 10 or more years, and in excess of $300 million. We have not proposed anything that would change these fundamentals. While we have heard repeatedly that free agency is “broken” – in the month of November $1.7 billion was committed to free agents, smashing the prior record by nearly 4x. By the end of the offseason, Clubs will have committed more money to players than in any offseason in MLB history.

    We worked hard to find compromise while making the system even better for players, by addressing concerns raised by the Players Association. We offered to establish a minimum payroll for all clubs to meet for the first time in baseball history; to allow the majority of players to reach free agency earlier through an age-based system that would eliminate any claims of service time manipulation; and to increase compensation for all young players, including increases in the minimum salary. When negotiations lacked momentum, we tried to create some by offering to accept the universal Designated Hitter, to create a new draft system using a lottery similar to other leagues, and to increase the Competitive Balance Tax threshold that affects only a small number of teams.

    We have had challenges before with respect to making labor agreements and have overcome those challenges every single time during my tenure. Regrettably, it appears the Players Association came to the bargaining table with a strategy of confrontation over compromise. They never wavered from collectively the most extreme set of proposals in their history, including significant cuts to the revenue-sharing system, a weakening of the competitive balance tax, and shortening the period of time that players play for their teams. All of these changes would make our game less competitive, not more.

    To be clear: this hard but important step does not necessarily mean games will be cancelled. In fact, we are taking this step now because it accelerates the urgency for an agreement with as much runway as possible to avoid doing damage to the 2022 season. Delaying this process further would only put Spring Training, Opening Day, and the rest of the season further at risk – and we cannot allow an expired agreement to again cause an in-season strike and a missed World Series, like we experienced in 1994. We all owe you, our fans, better than that.

    Today is a difficult day for baseball, but as I have said all year, there is a path to a fair agreement, and we will find it. I do not doubt the League and the Players share a fundamental appreciation for this game and a commitment to its fans. I remain optimistic that both sides will seize the opportunity to work together to grow, protect, and strengthen the game we love. MLB is ready to work around the clock to meet that goal. I urge the Players Association to join us at the table.

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  2. T0rm3nted

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    Haven't followed it even a little bit, but 99% of the time I'm on the side of the union/worker. This will be no different unless I hear something crazy.
     
  3. roadtonowhere08

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    Yep, agree. There are inherent drawbacks of unions, but usually if they are making a stink, something funky is going on.
     
  4. emmett kelly

    emmett kelly Well-Known Member

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    what the hell, if players are going to strike, bring on robotic players, too.

    Robot umpires at home plate moving up to Triple-A for 2022, one step away from major league baseball
     
  5. emmett kelly

    emmett kelly Well-Known Member

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    spring training is supposed to start thursday. not looking likely.

    No progress in talks, spring training could be delayed
     
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    emmett kelly Well-Known Member

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    MLB cancels first 2 regular-season series after MLBPA rejects league's final proposal
     
  7. T0rm3nted

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    I've seen this before in every contract negotation with a Union. They should always change the headlines the same way I changed your quote.
     
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  8. emmett kelly

    emmett kelly Well-Known Member

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    well, i guess we can archive this poll now.

    MLB and MLBPA agree to new CBA pending ratification
     

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